Again, hadley hubs?

Discussion in 'Observed Trials Discussion' started by dingus, Feb 9, 2004.

  1. dingus

    dingus New Member

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    Im sure this has been mentioned before but why dont more trials riders use Hadley hubs?

    I sent my king back for service and since its gone I built my rim onto a shimano Parallax hub, hell yeah.

    Anywho, I was looking through some catalogs and I cant help but wonmder is there anything wrong with the hadley hub? Similar in price to a king, Ti cassette body and more EP's I think.

    Another thought, this about transmissions. Nickolai, the bike company guy has/is trying to make some kind of standard way of mounting Rholoff-hub style transmissions above the bb. Rholoffs are heavy but forget about that for now.

    Atleast it gets rid of the der. and when mounted in the frame you could use a symetrical rear hub. I think there is a definite potential for trials, say with something less like rholoff and more like a typical 6 speed motorcycle transmission. Anyone think this is too stupid?
     
  2. Elan

    Elan steve french

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    istn hadley the one that has only one pawl engaged? versus kings, what, 3 or 4, or maybe two?....
     

  3. BiKe4EvEr

    BiKe4EvEr New Member

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    yea hadley's design would be more prone to break compared to kings
     
  4. Elan

    Elan steve french

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    nd more prone to skipping. or so it seems to me... ? there are a few here who will know, but i doubt they take the time to post, because this post could have easily been avoided by using the SEARCH option.... because i am sure it has been discussed more than once already here.
     
  5. dingus

    dingus New Member

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    Hadleys have been discussed only once off handedly. Other than the one pawl thing not much was said. Do I need more? Not really, my king will be back soon enough, but thanks for the help jackass.

    Kings dont have pawls.
     
  6. ascentrek

    ascentrek Original power yuppie

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    I have Hadley's for my Freeride/DH rig. Great hub, well built.... but not for trials. I had a long discussion with the boys at go-ride.com about this very subject. King is the way for trials, period. Hadleys are good for a mtn bike you'd like to throw around. Forget Ti for anything, period. BTW, I just ordered my Chris Kings today!
     
  7. WhiteRavenKS

    WhiteRavenKS Well-Known Member

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    jeebus you just really hate ti dont you?

    the hadley hubs are great. i have no clue about the long term durrability of the trials version of thier hub though. i have one of their hubs that i use for my dh bike and it has been very reliable. i guess this has been summed up already but yes, king for trials- hadley for a nice non-trials anything bike.

    dont mind elan, he's just a post whore :slap:
     
  8. Elan

    Elan steve french

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    oh, all i am is a post whore, ignore everything i say, i should be banned anyway.

    sorry, forgot that kings dont have pawls. i wast trying to be a "jackass". i was trying to say, in a roundabout way, that the hadley has been looked over, since it has that one pawl engagement...
     
  9. WhiteRavenKS

    WhiteRavenKS Well-Known Member

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    chill winston. it's called a joke :joshers:
     
  10. afrobot

    afrobot Aluminum is for recycling

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    If you say ti isn't good for anything ,you don't know shit about it !
    I agree every ti trials frame has been gay+1 but there will be a demand
    soon enough for frames.
     
  11. afrobot

    afrobot Aluminum is for recycling

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    Oh yeah, we were talkin hubs....Stealth? V2 coming soon..perhaps to be the great destroyer of the King.Stealths cannot skip.Faster engagement than a Vegas wedding.
     
  12. Little Android Man

    Little Android Man Free Cup!

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    ive got the hadley 108 point, and so far its held up really nice. thats got one pawl engaging at a time, and it hasnt skipped yet, and ive been riding pretty hard on it.

    My cousin has the normal hadley and its got three pawls at once, but only 36 clicks. its quite an improvement over shimano, and its lasted 4 trips to plattekill on the dh courses plus normal trials use.

    And then my friends got a king, and hes scared shitless. its falling apart on him, and he called for a warranty and mentioned "trials" and they pretty much hung up on him.

    So far, my hadley has been awesome. its burly, purty, engages wicked fast and its plenty noisy too. im gonna stick with it.
     
  13. oicdn

    oicdn Look at my member...

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    I might hop on one of them instead of a King....perhaps wait for a Stealth? Eh, I dunno....I always hear about Kings coming loose, and regular trials use kills them.....
     
  14. AndyT

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    King hub number one used for trials- skip every 20 minutes. Sent back to king, still skipped every fucking move just about (some of you remember that). I sold it used for $200 more than I paid for it...so it was ok.


    King hub number two, about a year old, skipped twice?? Never came loose, cleaned maybe once.


    Hit or miss.
     
  15. OTAdmin

    OTAdmin Got more product than Ron Popeil Staff Member

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    mine hasn't come loose in over a year now, it has only skipped a couple times in it's entire life, it's now almost 2 years old :eek3: and i haven't cleaned it or anything.
     
  16. Elan

    Elan steve french

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    ah, yes...i have broken two axles in my king, cost me a total of $30 to get both those fixed (the second time i overtightened it, i take the blame for that)

    umm...skips sometimes when i am doing wiered pedaling shit..i have never had it skip while under power though...

    i never mentioned trials to king... i dont know how one could really tell anyways...maybe the aluminum cassette body...but they never asked any questions.
    my final word: king is awesomeness.
     
  17. dingus

    dingus New Member

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    Didnt mean to make you apologize elan, now Im the one who's sorry. jackass.

    My king skipped like two ep's, then a week later a few more, then a week later alot more. Then the axle broke. Ill get the heavy duty axle as soon as its available. I never cleaned my engagement rings(dumbass), I think if I did I could have avoided the skipping problem.

    I told CK that I use it for trials and the lady I spoke to wasnt dismissive but pretty nice. She recommended a synthetic 20 wt. for the engagement rings since I use it for trials, as opposed to what CK normally lubes 'em with- which she said was basically a wax.

    Sounds like Hadelys arent too bad then, but I think its almost time for a front fw.
     
  18. ascentrek

    ascentrek Original power yuppie

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    Actually the way Hadley has Ti implemented isn't bad. Ti is a bit more stronger on the top end, but is brittle.

    I don't hate Ti. Its just silly to see it used for marketing when it has no other purpose.
     
  19. ascentrek

    ascentrek Original power yuppie

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    blah blah blah... you need a girlfriend.
     
  20. Elan

    Elan steve french

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    um, yes... no comment. haha